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Inside the tangled web of Trump officials and Ukraine's Zelensky




Yet, on September 1, he was there, leaning over a vase of white flowers to hear while the Ukrainian president promised to "beat corruption" and adopt new reforms.

Now, Pence is among the many administration officials pushing into the middle of another controversy involving the president and foreign policy influence, a familiar but uncomfortable situation for many of Trump's staff as they near the three-year mark of a Scandinavian-plagued presidency.

Over the past five months, U.S. officials have repeatedly raised corruption issues with Zelensky and his associates as they took aim at a new leader in a country long troubled by lopsided government and paid-for-play policies.

from Trump and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, officials also counted on how they could make allegations about the son of Vice President Joe Biden, who had a board job in a Ukrainian energy company and Trump insisted on being investigated. Neither Joe nor Hunter Biden has shown any evidence of wrongdoing.

The problem exploded this week as Trump tried to bolster his foreign agenda at the UN. In almost every photo opportunity, he confronted questions about the case, including whether it was related to his decision to temporarily withhold US military aid.

Defiantly, Trump tried to explain his decision as a desire to force Europe to pay more. In explaining himself, however, Trump brought his various subordinates to contention.

"I made it loud and clear. I told Mick Mulvaney I told a lot of people ̵[ads1]1; where's Mick? – wherever he is," Trump said, referring to his acting chief of staff.

"I told a lot of different people. I told Mike, I told it to – two Mikes. I told Steve. I told Wilbur Ross," he added, referring to his vice president and secretary of state , Treasury and Commerce. "I ask the same question. Why does the United States always pay these foreign countries?"

There is a well-known complaint that nevertheless revived this week amid revelations that Trump repeatedly raised the issue of Biden and his son. in a late July phone call with Zelensky. This has spurred Democrats to initiate a formal forgery and has raised questions about who in the administration was interested in Trump's decision-making as the events in question took place.

Asked this week about the controversy, Trump's cabinet aides have tried to back the blame on Biden and withdrew suggestions of inappropriateness.

"He mentioned Vice President Biden and his son in the context that we would see honest government," Pence said in an interview on Fox News. "That's exactly what the US taxpayer would expect."

Evaluation of a new leader

  President of Ukraine says his talks with Trump are & # 39; private & confidential & # 39;

Still, before the call took place, administration officials and Trump allies had spent months listing the new Ukrainian leader.

Trump first spoke to Zelensky on the phone in April, shortly after the election, to congratulate him on the victory. In a description of the conversation, the White House said that Trump raised a desire to "eradicate corruption" in Ukraine – a key issue the White House had read in the July phone call.

In subsequent months, officials worked to intervene with Zelensky's administration, including then-national security adviser John Bolton and U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Volker.

At the same time, Giuliani began his efforts to convince Kiev to investigate Hunter Biden and his business relations in Ukraine – an effort that quickly caught the president's attention.

Trump himself was initially not interested in partnering with Zelensky, said officials familiar with the matter. Instead, he looked at Ukraine as a corrupt country that was not committed to reform, according to people familiar with his thoughts at the time.

His phone call – and a scheduled meeting with Zelensky on Wednesday – came after months of back and forth between Trump and his advisers, who have worked to convince him that engaging the new Ukrainian leader is worth his time and effort by national security reasons.

During a meeting between Zelensky and Volker in early July – ahead of Trump's second telephone conversation with the Ukrainian president – Zelensky jokingly referred Giuliani, according to a source familiar with the discussion.

The Biden accusations were not central to the debate that took place in Toronto, as it focused mainly on encouraging Ukrainians to make positive political decisions – namely to eradicate corruption and deal with the Russians. [19659002]

Giuliani's role

  Trump's interest in Ukraine rose as Giuliani pressed for Biden claims

As the United States set these priorities, Zelensky joked about difficulties getting lawyers involved. That's when he playfully referred to Giuliani, acknowledging that his Trump administration was interlocking where they were not responsible for the president's persistent personal lawyer.

According to press releases, Volker said on the sidelines of the meetings that Ukraine has a "judiciary that has been subject to political influence from various directions for a long time" – an allusion to corruption issues that US officials have long urged Ukraine to resolve.

It was not long before Ukrainian officials visited Washington for important meetings in the White House, the Department of Foreign Affairs and the Pentagon, which eventually led to Trump's July 25 telephone call.

People familiar with the matter said Bolton and other US officials who met with the senior Ukrainian official in early July, nor did the Biden case. But the case was known and colored the conversations.

"It was a bizarre situation, but it seemed to be addressed in the Giuliani track," said one person familiar with the meetings. "It was out there, but it was handled by Giuliani. We didn't get it because he (Giuliani) talked about it and said he was a private citizen."

In the following weeks, Volker helped arrange a meeting between Giuliani and a Zelensky aide, in which the former New York mayor encouraged an investigation of the Biden case. Volker linked the aid with Giuliani at the request of Zelensky's presidential adviser, the Foreign Ministry said. The request was a markedly different approach than Zelensky, who laughed at Giuliani's role just weeks before.

Volker intended to try to get the Biden case off the table, said the person familiar with the case, eager to remove the case from bilateral talks between the United States and Ukraine. His move towards arranging the meeting between Giuliani and a Zelensky assistant was intended to hand over the case to a non-government interlocutor so that administration officials could focus on the many other issues between the countries.

But given that Trump himself raised the Biden case with Zelensky in his phone call on July 25, he put it into the middle of the US-Ukraine relationship.

Vague answers

  Former intelligence chief Dan Coats feels & # 39; so bad & # 39; for successor as Ukraine's drama ramps up

While Volker, an official of the State Department, facilitated this meeting, Pompeo would not assume the role of his department played in a round of interviews on Sunday. Pompeo also refused to give a direct answer when asked if he had ever asked Zelensky to open an investigation of Biden or not. Instead, he spoke in vague terms about the official US-Ukraine dialogue.

"I have spoken to the Secretary of State a couple of times now. We are talking about the important relationship between our two countries and how we can make Ukraine stronger and have great economic trade between our two major nations," Pompeo said.

When Pence sat in a Warsaw conference room opposite Zelensky in September, an intelligence official had already filed a complaint centered on Trump's behavior toward Ukraine.

A day later, Pence was questioned by reporters about the question of Biden's son being raised in his meeting. He said it did not – but quickly turned to the issue of corruption.

"As President Trump made it clear to me, we have major concerns about corruption issues. And fortunately, President Zelensky was decisively chosen on an anti-corruption message," Pence said, later adding: "Investing extra taxpayers in Ukraine, the president wants to be assured that these resources are really leading the way to the kind of investment that will contribute to security and stability in Ukraine, and that is an expectation the American people have and the President has expressed very clearly. "[19659002] Zelensky visits meanwhile The United States, in the same way that his talks with Trump provoke a historic political crisis.

He seemed unwavering on Tuesday.

"I expect us to have great relations with the United States. I expect us to invite Donald Trump to visit Ukraine. I want the leaders of the countries to come and see how great Ukraine is. One should not believe the words, but eyes, "he said in a Facebook video.

Asked by CNN later, if it was his understanding that Ukraine's aid and the investigation of Bidens were linked, Zelensky simply replied that his talks with the president are "private and confidential."

When asked if he would like the printout of the call to be released, Zelensky simply said, "We'll see."

CNN's Alex Marquardt contributed to this story.



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